Ever feel like you’re too old to start over? In this episode, Linda Murray Bullard shares how losing her job at 53 helped her rewrite her story, find her voice, heal generational trauma, and create a life she truly loves.
We talk about healing family patterns, starting over, setting new boundaries, shifting our mindset, and creating a business that aligns with who we are. Whether you’re feeling stuck or ready for a change, this episode will remind you, it’s not too late to build the life you want.
Linda, also known as The Business Plug, is an author, international speaker, and business strategist who helps people turn their life experiences into power moves, whether that’s writing a book, building a business, or rediscovering their purpose. Through her work, she empowers audiences to reconnect with their dreams and create the lives they were meant to live
Contact Linda here: https://GetTheBusiness.org
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Transcript
Hey, hey, hey, Savvy Squad. Welcome to another episode of the Dr. Sev Talks money, YouTube and podcast, where we empower women to manage money confidently. This Episode is all about embracing bold pivots after 40, choosing yourself, rewriting your story, and stepping into the purpose that’s been waiting for you.
Today I’m joined by Linda Murray Bullard, also known as the Business Plug. Linda is an author, international speaker, and business strategist who helps people turn their life experiences into power moves, reconnecting with their dreams, and creating the lives they were meant to live.
Linda, welcome to the Dr. Sev Talks Money Podcast. Hey, thank you for having me, Dr. Sev. You are welcome. It’s going be an exciting episode ’cause I know we could talk and talk and talk all day. Okay. Yes we can. Alright, so before I get into the meat of the podcast, I like to kick it off with an icebreaker question.
Okay. And I’m gonna answer this question too. If you could have dinner with any three women living. Or historical, who would you choose and what would you wanna ask them? And while you’re thinking about yours, I’ll share my three. Okay. So the first one is Madame CJ Walker. I would love to pick her business brain.
Find out how she was resilient, how she was able to overcome all of the obstacles that were put in her place, because she’s a woman of color, and how she overcame them to become one of the first multimillionaires. The next one will be Michelle Obama. I would love to talk with Michelle Obama because every time I see her, she represents grace under fire.
She represents dignity, so I would love to talk with her because I know some of the things she went through and is going through. I’d be like my fiery side, my Jamaican fiery side would come out. Okay. I love that. And then the last one is Harriet Tubman. There’s so many that I have, but I just picked these three.
And the last is Harriet, because I want to know Harriet, how did you deal with your people? Who just would not line up who you trying to rescue them, but they acting like you are hurting them. How would you do that? Because, in the finance world, sometimes you’re trying to help folks and , they need the help and they don’t wanna be helped.
And so I would wanna ask Harriet, tell me your tricks. Tell me, how you did it. So those are my three.
I love it. So my three, and I definitely get Harriet Tubman.
Like
I would love to understand her mindset.
That made her answer the call. Yeah. Right. Like that’s not your everyday person right there. And the fact that she had sightings and visions. Like, I can relate to that on a whole, I think, I’ve talked to you about how God told me to do things, and so I can relate to that.
So that, that’s definitely appealing to me. I, what is it, Iyanla Vanzant is a person, my young people, I used to have a group of kids that I my mentored for, for 13, 14 years, and they used to call me Chattanooga’s Iyanla. So I would love to have a conversation with her to see if there are any similarities in how we do things.
And then the third one is my great grandmother. My great grandmother’s name is Lorinda Taylor. Lorinda Taylor. The, the oldest record I can find on my father’s side has Lorinda Taylor coming out of slavery and owning property and becoming an entrepreneur. Like I read her story and it put a fire under me. I was like, oh no, I’m not gonna drop her legacy on my watch.
And so she’s the reason I own properties. She’s the reason I am an entrepreneur. So I would love to have a conversation with her and talk about our how we got to be who we are.
Yeah. Yes. I love it. So Linda, introduce yourself to the audience. Tell us a little about yourself and the work that you do.
Sure. So my name is Linda Murray Bullard. I go by the three names because they represent different periods of my time and two of the men that I love, my dad and my husband, God rest his soul, my late ex-husband, but they represent them and. I am an author, an award-winning author. I wrote The Well Ran Dry memoir of a, of a Motherless child because my mother died on Christmas Day when I was nine.
By age of 14, I became a mother myself. And my son that I had at 14 is getting ready to retire as a battalion chief at the Chattanooga Fire Department. He is. 51 years is old. He became qualified to retire a few years ago and he’s been going through it. And so understanding that, yeah, I have a kid that is eligible to retire.
And, and I’m not, I’m still working that, which is, that is a trip. But what I do is I have an onus on my life to teach and educate and empower, and I love through education. I love through teaching and training and helping people to see things that I see for them. I’m a visionary in that. My life has taught me how to see potential in everybody and almost everything.
And so I, the business plug, if you notice, it has a light bulb. I am addicted to the light bulb that comes on when people find they’re untapped. Potential that I can show it to ’em. I see that light bulb go up, I wanna see it again and again and again. And if you notice, my light bulb in my logo is on. I didn’t tell my my graphic designer to put it there, but she knows me.
And when I told her I’m the, I’m now the business plug, she immediately put the light bulb on.
I love that backstory. You’ve said. You first felt a shift around 39, but it wasn’t until 53 that you fully embraced your purpose. Can you take us back to that spark plug that turning point, so to speak?
Yeah. So all my life I’ve felt had this calling that felt like I could be doing more or I should be doing more, or I deserve more. And I looked at my family and I looked at. My cousins how they were property owners and they worked in good places and they, their kids like went to the best schools and different things and I wondered why my family didn’t mirror the same thing even though we are.
Uh, relatives and so I, I did a, I am all about genealogy. I believe if we know where we come from, we then we can tell where we’re going. Yeah. And so in genealogy, I learned that they’re my cousins because we are all descendants of four sisters. And my grandmother, who was a fire cap of. My maternal grandmother was a PHI camp, and so I learned how we were all cousins, but then I also learned that there is a legacy in our family that my family wasn’t living up to, and it was because they didn’t know.
And so I became the educator that I am and educated our family on how we were kin to the our cousins, and then how we are also kin to the same descendants they are. And so by seeing me, several members of my family became entrepreneurs, or entrepreneurs because I opened that gateway for our side of the family because we weren’t living up to our potential.
And it was because we didn’t know where the, where the benchmark was.
Yeah. Wow.
Again,
the spark plug, right? Yeah. The business plug. Making that plug.
Yeah. Absolutely. And so I have, I believe, uh, I lead by doing and so that, that having my son at 14, I wanted my son to have the best life I could provide, and I didn’t want him to be lacking due to, uh, my situation or his father’s situation.
And so I wanted to become the example. So it really, when you talk about that plug, it’s because I wanted him to be more than, I could dream, more than I could see, and I wanted to lead him by doing.
Yeah. Because, there’s so many times that we see what happened or what is happening with people in our family and we never see past what could happen if we don’t take on those traits.
This is what has always happened. My grandmother did it this way, my great-grandmother did it this way. But you saw past that and you saw the other side where, yes, this is happening in my family, but then there’s also another branch that’s doing much better. How can I learn from them and what, how can I take that spark and light it with the rest of my family members ?
Absolutely.
Because the thing about it is, we get what’s comfortable. It’s comfortable to follow my grandmother. The only picture I have of my grandmother, my maternal grandmother is her jail Picture her, the night she was arrested for killing my grandfather. Like that’s the only picture we have of her period and what she introduced into our lives.
We know we now suffer from, um, or have the, propensity the capacity to suffer from mental. Unhealthiness. She was mentally unhealthy, but she was undiagnosed and untreated. But now we have diagnosis and treatments and her illness has shown up in a lot of our family members. Now we can conquer that, like live past that and yeah, go to the side.
So there’s also people who were entrepreneurs and people who were speakers and people who, my grandfather ran a coal farm in Whiteside, Tennessee, and my grandmother. Down in Ken, Louisiana doing her thing with entrepreneurship. Like there, yeah, you’ll find some things that are negative, but it still teaches you.
Learning about those people taught me about who I am and understanding myself better. Like I have my grandmother’s temper. I can, I’m not gonna kill anybody, but I can get pretty mad. But once you have a diagnosis and once you understand like depression is a part of my life, but now I know how to cope it, it doesn’t have me, I have it.
And so that makes a difference. Like in our culture, we look down and I was telling my sister this the other day, in our culture, we look down on. Going to therapy and mental health and mental illness . And you, if something’s wrong with your brain, oh, that makes you crazy and all these things, but if something’s wrong with your arm, you go to a doctor and nobody thinks anything about it.
If something’s wrong with your heart, you go to a heart specialist and nobody thinks anything about it. If our thoughts are off, then we need to go to a therapist. I believe in Jesus and a therapist.
They Have to be therapists that understand our culture and understand. How we operate. Like I, my sons, God bless them, God’s blessed. I have two firefighters and a computer programmer and my sons doing what all the things they’ve done. I can remember them going through therapy ’cause they need it.
I’m an advocate for it, but I remember them, that therapist saying. You’ve been abused. Abused by your mama. Your mama mean, but Cultural reference, your therapist needs to have a cultural reference. Yes. Very important. Very important. Because if they don’t understand our culture, then yeah.
If you had to live a soft life, it looks very, very different from living a life of survival. Yes. Like there are things I didn’t want my boys to get shot. I didn’t want to get the call. And I told them that all their lives. I don’t wanna get the call when somebody has taken you out. I need to do the, these things to protect you.
Yes. Do they seem extreme? Yes, but I’m three for three, so Yeah. So you know. They’re all doing well. They’re all very productive. They’re all in positive lives. I don’t have a gang banger, like nobody killed them. They all lived past 25. My baby’s 36, my oldest one’s 51. They lived past 25 when at a time a lot of young boys didn’t think they would get to age 25.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I think I, I was a strict parent. I was determined that the streets couldn’t have my babies. Amen. And so I, I love their potential more than I love making them live a soft life.
You love their potential more than you love them, being happy with you. Because a lot of parents are wanting their kids to be friends, so they don’t want ’em to be mad at me.
I don’t want ’em to be mad at me. Okay. You can let them be mad at you now. Or that the world be mad at them later.
One of my kids, he wanted to call the police. I caught him, calling 9 1 1, and I said, I’ll call them. And I called them and invited them over because I was getting ready to give him a whipping.
And he said, I don’t want a whip and she don’t need to whip me. And the officer said, well, she’s whipping you now, so I don’t have you later.
Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. And he broke down and I didn’t have no problem . The thing about it is I was tough. Yeah. I was tough, but I, I saw their potential and I loved them with all my whole heart.
I have two siblings that were delinquents. I was destined not to. I, no, my boys couldn’t be that. I saw the toll that took on my mother. My mother died at 33. At 33 years old, she caught Hong Kong Flu and her will to live left her like quietly left her body. And I talk about that in my book. The Well Ran Dry.
I talk about that, but I didn’t want that for my kids. I saw how that ends, and I didn’t want that to be my story. A lot of her life is similar to mine. We started having babies young and we stopped having babies near the same age. But a lot of her story is not my story. And so I don’t lay claim to those things.
I’m the generational breaker. Like she died of the Hong Kong flu, the Vietnam. Soldiers came back and brought that back from Korea, but I was, I survived COVID, which came from Korea. Which came from Korea as well. So I’m a survivor. I’m breaking generational curses by making sure that my kids are living differently and that I’m living differently and I’m teaching my family to live differently because.
We are not stuck by the things that kept us stuck. As a generation, genealogy would tell you the good and bad of that. And so you get to pick which, which role you want. You can say, well, my father’s always done it, or My mom has always had it, or whatever. But you, every day you get to make a decision or push part of your genealogy.
You wanna push forward and I choose to push success forward for me and my family.
Yeah, you mentioned the book, The Well Ran Dry and that book became a powerful tool for healing. Yes. Not just for you, but for others. What inspired you to share your stories so openly?
So when my mother died, my mother had six kids. My brother, was the oldest of the six kids. His father came and got him and took him away for 37 years. We didn’t know if he was living or dead. He was living in LA. We didn’t know if he was living or dead when we reunited. He told me his life story and I told him mine, and something in me said, now that he, you’ve connected with him, you can let it go.
And in the book, I opened it up with the conversation that he and I made. The day after his 50th birthday and I made track to go see him and hug his neck and let him know that I missed him. And I love him. Him being my mother’s oldest, me being my mother’s youngest. We had got to spend time with each other and that meant the world to me.
’cause I again didn’t know if he was living a dead Over the years. We had tried to find him, we couldn’t locate him, but when we finally did. I felt like I could purge all the different things that had happened. Once I told him about my life story, he told me about his, I felt like I could purge and make room.
I needed to get rid of all the pain, the hurt, and those negative situations that had been floating in my mind and my heart. Like it was. It was like I was under a cloud and by writing that book. I gave room for success to come and, make home with me. Like all that stuff, all that pent up energy and those things that had happened to me in life, and all the darkness and all the, everything.
Once I was writing it was so therapeutic, so therapeutic. And after that, I became a different person. Like I told you at age 39, I have an earring here in my ear to remind me I’m different now. I’m not who I used to be, and so I think different. I act different. I walk different. I live different.
Yeah.
Reinvention takes courage. It requires a lot of courage. Yes. And and sometimes that means silencing, fear, doubt, and outside voices. How did you personally navigate your reinvention journey?
When I lost my job in 2013, when they told me I thought I was gonna, I thought I was gonna retire from that place.
I had worked there for 26 years and I just knew that’s where I was gonna retire from. But when they told me they no longer needed my services. I had just read an article that said, anytime you are separated from a, a lengthy relationship, you need to quieten yourself and process what happened. And so for the 30 days that I took just living and not really thinking and, and debriefing and trying to understand what I just went through, that’s when I decided that it was not.
Something happened to me as much as something happened for me. And so because something happened for me, it was like all my life. Like I started at working at 14 and I’ve always worked to provide for my son to make sure that he had all his basic needs met. And I did that for the other two boys as well.
And so. For the first time in my life, I didn’t have to worry about their needs. It was time to see what I needed. And the dreams that I had put on the shelf, and to understand how I get to rebuild my life the way I wanted to for years that I kept putting aside so that I could raise my children. So it became, when I say, and this was like at age 53, so it became,
awakening it. It was like I went through a transition and for the first time in my entire life I was able to put me first.
Yes. That happens, right? Yeah. Yeah. ’cause you don’t
know, you know? For a long time I thought my favorite color was red. People said, what’s your favorite color? And I said, oh, it’s red.
And then when I got by myself and I, I quieted myself and I listened to me. I love beaches. My favorite color is sea foam.
Not red. Yeah. Yeah. Red represented the entanglement of life I was in. How dis, how displeased and out of sorts and not living to my potential. Not necessarily with any particular person, but with myself.
Like I didn’t know me. I had no idea who I was. I had never been alone because my siblings lived in the house with my father when I was growing up. I’m the youngest of all of them. And then once all they, all of them had moved out and found their lives, I had my son. So I had never been alone. And in fact, I had to go to a therapist because I had separation anxiety.
What? Separation anxiety. Yeah, that’s what it was. When my boys would go to their father’s, I got a divorce and my, sons would go to their father’s. The weekends they were with him. I didn’t get out of the bed and I was like, okay, am I losing my cool? Like, what is this? And it was separation anxiety. I had never been alone in my life.
And that was at 39.
Yeah, you said something so key. You said you learned to discover yourself, you learned to know who you were. Yeah. That is so important because especially as moms as wives, we tend to take care of everyone else’s need. We, wanna make sure the husband is okay, the house is okay, the kids are okay, all of that.
And we lose ourselves when we’re going through that.
Absolutely. And I don’t, I don’t regret any of that. Like all of that adds to my story is what I had to go to, to get here. But at some point in your life, and be it sooner than later, you need to know who you are. Yeah. Like I was who everyone needed me to be.
Yeah. For 39 years I was doing all the things. Checking all the boxes for everyone who needed me to be for my, not just for my immediate family, like my kids and my husband, but also for my siblings. Like I, my brother, I was his caretaker for 29 years. He passed in 2019 and I was his caretaker. And then I was the 10 digits.
And everybody called, Hey Lynn, like my family calls me Lynn. Not, not just my siblings, but my siblings kids. So I was the person, and in therapy I learned that I had actually, I, I taught people to treat me like I was the yes. I looked like my mother. And yeah. So I had taught people to be dependent on me.
Yeah.
And then I complain because they were dependent on me.
Isn’t it funny how that goes? Yeah. Because we set our own boundaries and when we don’t set our boundaries, things happen and then we complain about it we have to go back and set those boundaries and say, Hey, this is what I’ll do.
This is what I won’t do, and people will push back. But once we have the boundaries, they know the boundaries are there. But if we don’t set boundaries, we can’t complain about it. Or we can, but it doesn’t make sense. It doesn’t do
any good to play. Yeah.
Yeah. Because we told them
how to treat us
right.
I bought the book Act Like A Success by Steve Harvey, and he had a whole group of people called, you know, act like a Success. He created the School of Acceleration. The School of Business Acceleration, and I joined it. And Lisa Nichols was one of our coaches, she was his life coach at the time.
And she said, go back and when you go home today. Tell your family you are sorry. Apologize to your family, and let them know that you have led them to believe that your dreams and your visions don’t matter.
Go
back and tell them you’re sorry that it was your fault, that you taught them that everything about them comes before anything about you.
And so that exercise going back and saying, Hey guys, guess what? I’m sorry I have, I have been doing all these things for you, neglecting myself, but please know at this point I’m gonna become a different person. Yeah. And at the time, um, my youngest son was living with me and he was like, okay, mama,
what, whatever do
you, but because you know what, most of the times they because it’s things have been going the same way all the time.
When we say things. They’re not taking our word. They’re waiting for our action. Absolutely. The thing, is your action going to measure up with your word? Because Absolutely. Oh, how many times we hear people say, if you, if you don’t do that, I’m gonna, I’m gonna hit you. Absolutely. If you don’t do that, I’m gonna take your toys.
But they don’t do anything. Right. So, you know, people get used to, even though I’m complaining about the thing, I’m not doing anything about it. So even when I come with a new rule, they’re like, okay . Because they’re watching for the action, because that’s what’s gonna tell them that the boundary it has been instituted.
Yes,
absolutely. That’s what that was. And here’s the funny part. We were driving home from church one day and we stopped by this land and I said, God told me he’s gonna build me a house right there. He wanted me to tell you, he wants to show you that all you have to do is believe and ask him, and he can give you the desires of your heart.
And. My son was like, okay, ma. So we stopped, we pulled over, I went next door to the land and asked the people who built their home and who owns the land next to them and got that information. And then in a, in a short while, we were building a house where I told him, and, and today I’m living in that same house, right?
And so my son was like. When I tell him things, he’ll, he’ll be like, yeah. ’cause the last time you told me something that God told you, you done built a whole house. So what, what did God tell you? What did he tell you? Because he, he said, you done proved to me that you and God, y’all talk. Yeah. And we do. And we do.
I mean, I, I live my life on purpose. In purpose.
Yeah. It, it is so much more freeing to do that. Yeah. And, and for those who feel like they’re not living life on purpose, that’s okay because we all get there at some point. None of us are born knowing what it even means to be in purpose .
What that does that mean to live life on purpose? What does it mean to even know your purpose? We hope that this episode is going to help you to sit down and take that time. Maybe it’s not 30 days like Linda did. May, whatever time works for you and really evaluate and see. What do I want out of life?
This is where I’m, I’ve been, this is what I have. Where do I want to go? And what do I need to do to get there? What are some things that I need to change with my relationship, with myself, with, whatever it is. And do that evaluation now, Linda, when people start making bold pivots in life. Where do you recommend they begin their mindset, their skills, strategy?
What, are some of the things, mindset that they can do to be Yes.
Mindset, everything, how you think. Like we’ve been raised a certain way. Our, ancestors, even us we were talking earlier and I was saying, I told my sons things to keep them alive, in their youth because we were at a time where little brown boys were coming up missing and shot and in gangs and all these negative things, and I didn’t want my boys to be there.
So I told them different things to keep them safe. Now they’re grown. Those different things may or may not apply, but in our lives we have to. My, I have a young lady Dr. Lakweshia Ewing, who does unlearn and live, right, that’s her brand, unlearn and Live, and she teaches people how to unlearn the things that we used to learn to keep us safe and live the things that will keep us.
Becoming successful in this day and time. Yeah. ’cause the Bible tell us to serve this present age. And so this is our calling, this is it. We are to serve this present age that we are living in now. And so some of the things that we used to tell our kids or used to do in life may or may not apply these days, I’m thinking we probably need to go back to, in this time that we are living in currently to be safe and so many things happening in the world.
Father God. I’m just thinking now we may need to go back to the old landmark. Yeah. And go back to some of those things that kept us safe years ago may be applicable now where there was a period of time when they were not applicable. Yeah. But you do need to serve this current age, and you do need to be present and you need to unlearn things that are not no longer serving you.
Yeah. Yeah, I certainly agree. So what advice would you give to someone who wants to create their own purpose-driven business but doesn’t know where to start? Where, should they start?
So somebody’s doing it. There’s nothing new under the sun. Like there’s nothing new. So find who’s leading and doing it.
They’ve already came across your life in whatever way they did, and reach out to them, have a conversation. How did you get started? And that’s the thing about Steve. Steve was like, I would tell anybody how I got started, the things I did, but a lot of people. Go to those people and they want what they have and it’s yes.
Don’t ask for what they have honey. Ask them, how did you get started? Where should I start? Because whoever there, nothing’s new. So whoever’s leading the charge in that industry, in that place, in that space, doing what you do wanna do, if it’s cooking, if it’s cleaning, if it is. I have people that are scientists.
I have people that are inventors, like I have people that are doing all kind of things. I always say we do more than hair and fish. We we’re capable of so much more. And so I have people that are scientists. I actually, uh, one of my, one of my good friends is a rocket scientist. Like I, I know two now. I told him, I met Mr.
Johnson who did the super soaker, and then I, now I know him and so now I know two rocket scientists in my life and they’re both black. So Ima imagine that, but we can do amazing things. If you ever, I spent time in Africa, I actually put my feet on the ground of the soil of my ancestors, my mom, her DNA.
If you go to AfricanAncestry.com. It can show you where your parents’ maternal DNA started. My mother’s was in Cameroon. My father’s was in Burkina Faso. So I actually had the opportunity to go to Douala in Cameroon and put my feet on the soil of my ancestors. Like you have no idea how empowering that is.
And so look at, in your family, you probably have some successes that you don’t know about, but dig into your genealogy, find out who you are when you’re surfing, like you were saying earlier, researching who you are, what you like, what you don’t like. Go find out who you are.
Certainly a good place to start.
Any last word that you’d like to share with our listeners?
Well, I, I, I want any of the business owners, so I do this whole, trying to help people find themselves. And I love, love, love that I get to do that. But my passion that my ministry is entrepreneurship. So I teach businesses how to get government contracting for their businesses because.
Against popular belief, the government still has to run regardless of who’s in office. Yeah. So I teach people how to position their businesses so that they’re the best option for business owners. So if you are new. And, you have an idea, you wanna see if it’ll make a good business, then please reach out to me.
Or if you are an existing business and you want to expand your business and you’re interested in government contracting, then reach out to me. I do it on every day. I’m a Kaufman Foundation affiliate, which means I have the number one entrepreneur curriculum in the world from the number one philanthropist of entrepreneurs in the world.
And with that I want to share the best, one of the best places to contact Linda. And it’s get the business.org. And on that website, you’d be able to find the contact us form. Linda, thank you so much for joining us on the Dr. Sev Talks Money podcast. I know we could go on and on and on and talk about all of this.
There’s just so much more to uncover because our people fail for lack of knowledge. Absolutely. And we wanna make sure that we are a conduit. Absolutely. That we are able to provide some measure of information, some measure of inspiration to people. So they know that there is a way there.
There are ways to be successful and your success might not look like mine, but you can still be successful. Absolutely. So I hope that we did that. For those of you who are listening. So thanks again, Linda, for coming on today’s show, sharing your inspiring story and insight. Thank, but it’s never too late to build a dream that you envision.
Absolutely. I’m 65 if anyone want to know. So I’m out here. doing the thing and you can too.
Yes, absolutely. Yes. So friends, if today’s conversation resonated with you, don’t keep it to yourself. Share this episode with someone, a friend, a family member, a coworker who could use a little encouragement on their own journey.
This is Dr. Sev saying stay savvy, and we’ll see you next time.
Thank you so very much.
